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Flea Medicine

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 98 14:31:29 -0500 Subject: FEL-L: allergy on cat, fleas

On one of our breeder's group F1 female we used Advantage as a flea spot. We also made the mistake of putting it on her rump at the base of the tail. She has a short stub tail with crook. Within days, she had a raw line on the right side and we wonder if this could be an allergic reaction to the the flea treatment?

I usually use cedar bedding and shavings, cedar pellets for the litter box, brewer's yeast in the food as an additive, and citron oil in bedding and litter. I only use the strong flea killers when necessary. My girl friend is taking this animal to her vet Monday as she is a shelter, rescue cat. I would like input because I'm not impressed with this vet. Ideas and suggestions most appreciated. Sherri Scalf

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 19:04:53 -0500 Subject: Re: FEL-L: allergy on cat, fleas

Sometimes cats can be allergic to cedar.

I am SOLD on Frontline Top Spot. Its an entirely new class of chemicals fipronil - very safe and VERY effective. It gets ticks as well as fleas. I suggest you give it a try. It's not cheap, but it really is amazing stuff.

Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 22:41:10 EDT Subject: Re: FEL-L: allergy on cat, fleas

Several of my cats are allergic to it.

One thing that I have noticed with the others is as the fleas are dying they bite hard and my cats tend to chew the area where they are being bitten, leaving raw areas which makes them chew harder.

So with some of my cats I don't use the stuff the others I do. Sherry :)

Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:29:36 -0700 Subject: FEL-L: Where to put Advantage

The directions are VERY clear... you put this type of treatment (Advantage or Frontline) where the animal is NOT able to lick, which is on the back of the head between and below the ears

Otherwise, they WILL lick themselves raw... and may even have a bad health reaction from consuming the chemical

Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:20:05 EDT Subject: Re: FEL-L: allergy on cat, fleas

I don't know if this is a good product for large cats, but it can be used for domestic cats and dog, and is mainly used for Small animals. It is called CareFresh Pet Bedding. I use it for my guinea pigs becuase sawdust would get stuck in their genitils and eyes, and caused my (then before she died) baby guinea pig to go blind in the eye. This bedding is Safe and easy disposal, up to 3 times longer than longer in odor control. Has no ink or chemical contaminants. It isn't recycled paper, it is reclaimed wood pulp waste. This short fiber virgin pulp can't be made into paper so would normally be sent to a landfill or burned.

CareFRESH(TM) helps save scarce resources. They even say this is wonderful for postoperative care. It's soft and absorbent and won't irriate or contaminate wounds. It is also recommended for pets or pet owners suffering from respiratory ailments or allergies. You can flush used litter down teh toilet, discard with the trash or incinerate.

All the pet stores in my city use it, and recommend it. I love the stuff, and it might be something you would like to check into. I got it at my local PETCO. Hope this helps. Sincerely, Jennifer

Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:56:58 -0400 Subject: Re: FEL-L: Where to put Advantage

> a bad health reaction from consuming the chemical

My vet called the manufacturer for the recommended dosing for my cougar. They recommended one large dog dose on the neck and one large dog dose at the base of the tail to be sure the animal had coverage. I've been treating her for several years this way with no adverse reaction. What type of bad health reaction are you referring to?

Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 18:02:41 EDT Subject: Re: FEL-L: allergy on cat, fleas

I agree with Lynn. I use Frontline on my servals and caracal. I've never had any trouble with it. Never used Advantage before. One thing with Frontline you put it between the shoulder blades. I've found with servals you have to put it much higher up or they will lick it.

Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:44:17 -0700 Subject: FEL-L: Here a Drop, There a Drop

> a bad health reaction from consuming the chemical
>>type of bad health reaction are you referring to?

Hmm... may be different with different sizes and or breeds

My vet told me to make sure my "small" cat did not lick the chemical, as it was not "designed" for ingestion, only to go on the skin so the fleas would get a dose

I didn't ask what might happen, just made sure I put drops only on the back of the head

I guess for putting drops at both ends on large cats, I'd go with what my vet said... or I'd contact the company myself to be sure of getting the DIRECT story, and not a version that was "filtered" thru the mind/mindset of the vet (which is NOT to say your vet is lying, just that ANY second hand information MAY have been subtly altered in transmission)

Date: Wed, 16 Sep 98 09:50:43 -0000 Subject: FEL-L: Re: Advantage, Frontline, etc.

I know a little about this. In a large dog, like a mastiff, they say to do like a "spotting" along the spine, from between the ears, down to the tail. The problem we ran into was with long haired, like Afghans or those dogs with the undercoat, like Siberians, or malamutes. There we found we had to use more. I don't know if it was the amount of hair involved or, in the case of the malamutes, a combination of hair and size (these particular dogs were especially big).

In cats, again there was the problem with long hair or thick coats, like Persians, or Norwegian Forest cats. We had to use a little more. Cats are more flexible, it seems, and one cat could do this trick of turning her head most of the way around. She got a taste of it. That cat swore like a sailor, and ran around the room, foaming, so be careful they can't do that. She was fine, once she got the taste out of her mouth. Debbie

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:18:51 EDT Subject: FEL-L: Advantage for fleas on a C. Lynx

I am hoping for advice about using Advantage or other systemic insecticides to kill fleas on a Canadian Lynx. Is there any special danger on using these products on a non-pregnant female Canadian Lynx kitten over five months old? If so, are there better alternatives. (There is not big problem, just a few fleas on a couple of domestic cats. I just want all the fleas gone.) Thanks, Kelly

Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:13:34 -0700 Subject: FEL-L: Fleas

>Advantage or other systemic insecticides to kill fleas on a Canadian Lynx.

Can't speak to a C Lynx, but used it once on my Serval and did not see any bad effects... at least not to her, the fleas didn't care for the treatment!

Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:23:51 EDT Subject: Re: FEL-L: Advantage for fleas on a C. Lynx

I'm using Advantage on a female C. Lynx since she was two month old with out any problems so far. She's five month old now. Tibor.

Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:39:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: FEL-L: Product Safety

Just a small note here NEVER USE FLEA DIP, OR FLEA SHAMPOO ON ANY EXOTIC!!!! IT WILL USUALLY KILL THEM.

Use baby shampo or something with citrus in it. Any shampo will get the fleas off, citrus will keep them off.

but I've seen LOTS of cats die from flea products, they can't handle it, so DON'T use 'em. (The dips and shampo's that is).

Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:31:18 EDT Subject: Re: FEL-L: Servals / liver problems

Do you use Ivomec for de-worming. If so this happens commonly with dogs that have wormed with Ivomec repeatedly.

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